Dell complaints

[AngelusDaemonicus]

Actually, not to argue or contradict, the person I spoke to at the labour board indicated that they should have paid out something to me. Doesn't actually matter, I wasn't expecting anything. I just wanted to use it against DELL. No skin off my butt. The government folks will decide whether or not to pursue this. I'll leave that to them. Not my problem anymore.

Got my ROE. It was, apparently, an error on payroll's part. That matter's closed. As far as I'm concerned, I got what I was owed from DELL. My business dealings with them are done.

DELL is in my past, and has amounted to little more than padding on my CV.

There were some high points to being there, though. I worked with some fantastic people, had some really nice customers. I had a decent paying job that allowed me to buy some cool stuff. I guess I'm just taking the good with the bad.

I'm more concerned with the folks who are still there, and are still being screwed-over. I guess that's gonna change today, huh? I can't imagine the site remaining open much longer, regardless of DELL's lies.

I feel bad for those who won't land on their feet. People who have mortgages and car-payments and kids. I'm fortunate in that it's just my wife and I and our rent is dirt-cheap. We owe very little, comparatively speaking. We have almost no expenses. We've planned for DELL Ottawa's demise for sometime. When I quit, it was on my terms... not DELL's. Sure, I missed out on the package, which would have come in handy... but whatever. I'm moving forward and looking for something stable.


You know, it's kinda ironic. DELL was supposed to be stable and folks put down the crappy out-sourcers like Convergys. Well... Convergys is still open. DELL Ottawa is, at the time of this posting anyway. By the end of the day, who knows?

I wish everyone who's still there the best of luck.
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"One man's garbage is another man's DELL."

[AngelusDaemonicus]

Wow. Thanks for the above post. It was helpful and informative...
NOT!
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"One man's garbage is another man's DELL."

[FallenAngel]

[Dhellp]

Heh I always thought it was a bad idea when I saw agents getting mortgages and the like. It was pretty crazy at the beginning. One guy on my team went out and got a loan to buy a Cadillac Escalade before we even finished TQ.

[AngelusDaemonicus]

Good riddance indeed. They took some great folks who did good, honest work and spat them out into the sink. Mind you, they had some real arse-holes there that probably mortgaged themselves all the way to hell. Hope they stay unemployed... Vinay and others... You know who they are.

Here's hoping the shareholders eventually ask for Mikey's head on a platter... or on an Inspiron. The company is circling the drain... sooner they go, the better.
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"One man's garbage is another man's DELL."

[FallenAngel]

[Dhellp]

Yeah I thought getting an Escalade was insane too, but back then it was pretty common to see some very strange things at Dell Ottawa.

Looking back I think alot of people got swept up in the hype. If you were hired in the first groups coming to orientation was like being in one of those TV evangelist meetings. The claims about advancement and bonuses etc were absolutely outrageous. Ironically this has been made all the more ridiculous by shutting the site down less than 2 years later along with Edmonton.

Being naturally cautious it all never smelled right to me. I suppose because of that reservation I never significantly changed my consumption habits and did not take any credit offered once I started at Dell. Of course now I'm pretty glad about this.

Funnily enough though, it seemed in Ottawa that if you were easily led there were plenty of people trying to get you to take credit. I remember coming in to my bank one day to do some regular business a couple of months after I started working at Dell. The bank person immediately started to say "oh you work at Dell' and proceeded to try and pimp me a mortgage and an insane credit limit on my Visa.

[FallenAngel]

[HellResident]

Living beyond their means? Uh yah I have seen some of that. My L2 who I'm certain is on the streets now got a mortgage...and a car about a month befor eI left in december . BOTH he and his spouse worked at Dell. She was on parental leave for a while just before christmas she returned and I think he had a couple kids if I recall right not just the baby. They have GOT to be feeling the pain about now, if not now real soon. I seem to recall him spouting a monthly mortgage figure of about $2000 a month at one point. If C is watching, come by sometime. I'm sure you know who I am by now, everyone else but Dell seems to!

Mind if people get back into a job right now it doesnt have to be all bad. An extra 16 weeks salary in their pockets.

HellResident

[FallenAngel]

Um.

Well wasn't that fascinating?

[biff's buddy]

A book is also a person who takes bets .... incomplete info, hmmm. Check DSN ......

[Rocke_T_Sinetist]

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[AngelusDaemonicus]

Well... I finally got my answer from EI. I've been denied because I quit DELL. I had, in their opinion, not exhausted all of my options. I had expected this. I had planned to escalate my claim from Day 1 to begin with. The reason... my reason... to see if I can get the EI folks to change some rules. It may or may not work, but I gotta try. I don't need the EI so I don't have anything but a little bit of my time to lose. I want the EI board to know exactly what kind of company DELL is (I'm sure they know already... but I want to remind them) and I want to show that by definition, everything that was said by DELL in my particular case was a lie. I want the EI board to side, by default, with the claimant and not believe anything DELL tells them. I plan to bring up the apprenticeship mess, as well as the ever-changing rules, shifts... and managers. I also plan to prove that the Ottawa site was doomed very early on and that caused extra stress.

Bottom line, I gotta try to open the government's eyes to this whole deception any way I can. I don't expect to win on appeal, and plan to go higher. Again, I've got nothing to lose. Money's not an issue with me, but if some magically appears at the end of this, then it's all gravy.

This site, and the good people here, have taught me to fight back against DELL. And that's exactly what I'm gonna do. If it wasn't for this forum, I may still be at the Ottawa site, along with my team that is still slaving away. I'm happier being at home right now typing this. I sleep better as a result.
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"One man's garbage is another man's DELL."

[FallenAngel]

Keep fighting the good fight. Principle or fundamentals, it doesn't matter. If you have a reason to fight, keep doing it. Dell's track record speaks for itself, so expect some compassion eventually.

[AngelusDaemonicus]