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poormanq45 PhDh--Doctor of Dellhateology
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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:29 am Post subject: |
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IIRC the 730 line switched from Foxconn to Biostar.
But the same thing apples. Dell is like walmart. Force the suppliers to reduce the cost of the product at any cost.
Unfortunately reliability is the first thing to go  |
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darbsllim Graduate Dellhater
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:35 am Post subject: |
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Well did I spark a moral debate or what?
I don't want to get into this too much, but I've been screwed over by Dell enough to know that I deserve a little justice.
Speaking in terms of my own ethics, the way I do business is not the way Dell does business.
I feel like for what I've put up with and gone through with this company, I WANT to take advantage of Dell. I NEED some retribution. If Dell isn't going to give me justice by traditional routes, I'll just abuse their system and get it.
The same way they abuse every system from false advertising to hyper-inflation to creative accounting at Dell Financial, to atrocious customer service - Dell is breaking the karma rules on a grand scale every single day.
I feel like, not only for myself, but for all of the little guys out there who are stiffed by Dell on a daily basis, that I should return the favor.
I feel like EVERYONE who has not received satisfactory service from Dell, no, downright ulcer inducing service from Dell - should do everything in their power to return the favor.
How can someone stand up for Dell after reading so many horror stories on this forum? Have you not read about the people who've been taken advantage of time and time again?
How can you condemn someone for wanting to make Dell bend over for once?
I don't care what you say - if I can cram it up Dell's tailpipe, I'm going to seize the opportunity and revel in it.
I get giddy just thinking about calling up and saying "I smelled burning, and when I went to turn off my computer, I got shocked pretty bad and I thought I saw smoke."
I can't wait to drop my laptop from a moving vehicle in the middle of a downpour, then call up to get a brand new one.
It will make me feel like I'm contributing in some way, like I'm avenging all of us - the ones who have been dignity raped by Dell. What I'm proposing is not immoral or bad - in fact it is our duty to restore order to the universe.
For every action there is a reaction. The universe is unbalanced by the mass amount of bad Dell does to people.
Don't condemn me, join me. Give back to the universe. |
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guest_s Graduate Dellhater
Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 54
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:33 am Post subject: |
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Sounds like a load of bloviating justification of something wrong to me. You never did answer my question.
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What kind of karmic deficit do you bring upon yourself when you are part of the problem of bogus safety captures that leads dell to not believe people anymore and people with legitimate issues can't get their systems replaced? |
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darbsllim Graduate Dellhater
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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| guest_s wrote: | Sounds like a load of bloviating justification of something wrong to me. You never did answer my question.
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What kind of karmic deficit do you bring upon yourself when you are part of the problem of bogus safety captures that leads dell to not believe people anymore and people with legitimate issues can't get their systems replaced? |
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Most of what I said was inflated as a joke - but in all seriousness, I'm not worried about karmic deficit from seeking justice from a corrupt company.
It's not really about the money, it's about the principal. Companies can not be allowed to treat customers like this and get away with it.
Dell is going to hell in a hand basket - if you have learned anything from this site, it is that Dell isn't some upstanding beacon of exemplary service.
Dell is screwing people over every day by not following their own policies when it comes to repairs and replacements, and frankly breaking laws.
I had plenty of legitimate issues with my Dells, and I almost got an ulcer from trying to deal with customer service through the normal channels - and I eventually just gave up because it wasn't worth the stress of being on hold 45 minutes to be hung up on by someone in India. Dell will always try find a loophole to NOT service your computer, NOT help you, and charge you as much extra money as possible.
So I'm finding a loophole of my own to get some satisfaction.
So again it's not really about the money and I'm not worried about a karmic deficit. I think I have enough of a positive karmic balance built up from doing good things.
Just this month I've donated $8000 to the Children's Wish Foundation, that should at least buy me enough karma to take advantage of Dell =) |
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guest_s Graduate Dellhater
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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K, well, just think about it the next time someone posts here that their machine is shocking them and Dell won't do anything.... you helped make that happen.
If your conscience is clear, whatever. |
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darbsllim Graduate Dellhater
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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| guest_s wrote: | K, well, just think about it the next time someone posts here that their machine is shocking them and Dell won't do anything.... you helped make that happen.
If your conscience is clear, whatever. |
Come on guest - we're not in preschool here. When Dell doesn't do anything about issues it's due to their own corrupt corporate mismanagement and terrible practices.
This isn't Sunday School. I'm not going to sit here and take this kind of crap like a good little consumer.
I agree that it is normally a bad choice to intentionally take advantage of a company - but you must not be a Dell customer.
I don't think about how to do this to companies that give me proper customer service, or at least treat me like a human being.
I only recommend taking it to this vigilante level if Dell has really done a once over on you and not even bought you dinner afterwards. |
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incident_man Emperor of Dellhateology

Joined: 04 Sep 2007 Posts: 658 Location: walking in the middle of the street
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Whilst I am all in favour of DHell getting its just desserts, the difference between the average consumer and DHell is that DHell has the money to hire attorneys to make just about every problem go away or to be able to create just about any problem. The latter is what you are experiencing: The inability to get a corrupt company to do what's right. If they won't fix a legitimate problem, there are other, much better avenues to go down. If the Better Business Bureau doesn't work, then invite the Federal Trade Commission (or your Canadian equivalent) to take a whack at it. If that doesn't work, then try the media or write a guest column in your local paper. Publicly shame them by exposing the situation to the widest possible audience you can get. If it's one thing DHell doesn't want, it's bad press, getting the media involved or getting the Government involved in the situation. It's exactly why they prefer to settle lawsuits that they know that they are going to lose, rather than have it go to court. Sure, the money involved would be less, but more importantly DHell doesn't get their dirty laundry aired out for everyone to see just what kind of company DHell really is. _________________ Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia. |
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darbsllim Graduate Dellhater
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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Hey I know what you're saying, but that is a headache that I'm not able to take up right now. I don't want to start up a campaign to get awareness out of my situation, I just want a new computer.
I'm willing to take a stand, but I don't have the time to take them on in the public on my own.
If there was a group of people doing something I'd join it, but I don't want to do it on my own. |
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Tailmon Emperor of Dellhateology
Joined: 17 Dec 2008 Posts: 1101
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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Dhell is one company that burying issues and problems is ingrained in their very being. They will spend millions to cover a problem than thoursands to fix it. _________________ Former employee of Dell and can say that they
definitely Suck! |
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