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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bane wrote:
Rocke_T_Sinetist wrote:
Like Stephen Stills said once, paranoia strikes deep.


For What It's Worth, are you having an American Dream Mr.Soul ? ;>)


Hey wait a minute...American Dream is CSNY or maybe just CSN ....
Plus it's 20 years more recent....

Ahhh....the Buffalo Springfield days....no such thing as a PC......
Hey Rocke....you remember memory drums....?
PDP-11's...??
Key punch machines....???
An Abacus..??..oops...too far back....although mine still works and never crashes...oh sure I have to do a full OSRI reset on the beads every time I use it....but not bad for a computer that's over 2000 years old....obviously not made by Dell..... Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PDP-11s? Dude, I WORKED on PDP-8s. And my highschool ran on punchcards... it was ahead of its time even doing that.

I worked on TUBES, and not just guitar amps. Know the difference between a 50B5 and a 50C5? Hint: it's not much, but they are not interchangeable.

If you can say the US equivalent to ECC83, or the European equivalent to 6BQ5, without looking it up, you are an electro-pliestocene god in my estimation.
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I looked it up in DSN ... it never existed!
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hawhawhaw! In DSN, the GX270 capacitor issue and the D4700 backwards fan issue never existed either. For that matter, in DSN, Michael Dell never existed.
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any issue that would cost Dell money never made it to DSN. I'm sure the battery recall was nothing more than a desk drop Razz
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are Dell hardware issues referenced by number on Dell's own forum, entered by Dell's own forum liasons, which Dell phone answerers do not acknowledge by number or by symptom.

Is anyone surprised? You ottent be.
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dell phone jockeys barely acknowledge their own LOB or name, so why not disregard a DSN article too?

Now that it'll be almost completely outsourced, expect that to get worse.
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hell, they even lie about their NAMES.
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's because they have to "Christian" them up right quick for the sake of their North American callers who don't want to wait 10 minutes for them to pronounce their full REAL names.

That always makes me think of the movie Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee - the scene where the "savages" were handed a big book of Christian Names to choose from.
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks_for_all_the_fish wrote:

An Abacus..??..oops...too far back....although mine still works and never crashes...oh sure I have to do a full OSRI reset on the beads every time I use it....but not bad for a computer that's over 2000 years old....obviously not made by Dell..... Shocked



If you have to do an OSRI every time you use it, check the label again ....
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just run checkbead/R.

Yeh, I've seen one working drum memory. It was at the State Fair. I forgot whose name was on it, IBM or Remington Rand. Also seen ferrite-core memory. Also, a working mechanical analog computer, once in a documentary and once (of all places) in a cornball no-budget sci fi movie, Earth vs. the Flying Saucers. In the movie, the output wasn't a teletype, it was handwriting!

Am I a technology dinosaur or what?
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rocke_T_Sinetist wrote:
And my highschool ran on punchcards


Heck, my college used punch cards while I was there because they had only 6 TSO terminals available for students to use for their homework assignments.

Not exactly the "good old days" ...

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rocke_T_Sinetist wrote:
You know Springfield lyrics? Sit down, I think I love you! But nowadays Rocke_T can't even schwing.

Know them ? I think I have an original copy I picked up in '80 at a yard sale. Someone thought cassettes were the end-all to music and unloaded all of the vinyl for pennies on the dollar.

Oh and speaking of "schwing", I have an autographed copy of WW. Signed by Penelope Spheeris
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you can say the US equivalent to ECC83, or the European equivalent to 6BQ5, without looking it up, you are an electro-pliestocene god in my estimation.


12AX7.....??
...but I had to look up the EL84.....
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good on ya, Fish! Very Happy

Wanna go another round? ECC82.

I think there are close similarities--if not identicalities--between say EL84/KT66; EL34/KT88. If I'm not mistaken, EL34 was also known as--or equivalent to--7591. Don't know what its 6xx5 number was, 6L6 comes to mind, though I'm not sure how it graduated from a 5. Wink Maybe a separate suppressor (beam) pin, instead of the internal connection (?).

Here's another one: What is the small-socket equivalent of 6H6? (Hint, the '6' is misleading.) (Challenge, it's not cross-referenced on Google.)
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