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immanuel jean
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:47 am    Post subject: Total Solutions in India Reply with quote

Total Solutions was introduced in India last week. we have to make sales for which no incentives are paid out. We do the job of Inspiron, Dimension, wireless and now TS. 4 Dept is handled by 1 Person.

Dell Is truly Hell. Twisted Evil

Dell Employment Sucks world wide..
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the Final Solution wake up call for Ottawa!

PERCHANCE he for whom this bell tolls may be so ill, as that he knows not it tolls for him ......

...... never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

excellent *rubs hands together*
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised they didn't call it the Final Solution.

Or, the Leave No North American Employed act.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Making techs push and hawk their "Total Bullshit" was just a measure employed to trim bottom line from compensation, like commission. If you pay staffers commission to hawk wares, AND pay techs to support it - you're out 2 paycheques. By rolling "Total Bullshit" into the hands of techs, they don't have to pay commission because it's "not a sales role" and at the same time, they save how much money that way?

It's similar to the way that they made Dell On Call reps start selling their own contracts, with NO commission. We push their shit, we do ALL the work, and get HALF the pay for it. You can all put your hands together and applaud Dell for yet another way discovered to keep more money for themselves, and less money for you who does the real work.

None of you stood up against it, so your misery is your own.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stand up against it? Doesn't that get you sent to the class on which way the front door opens?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the Roseberg site, Joe Van DAMN wanted SRS (a return queue) to take the overflow of PQ calls, when he was asked would SRS be getting any "bonus" for handling the calls, he said that because SRS were paid $11.XX+ a hour and PQ were only $9.XX a hour and the fact that SRS were paid by the hour with real overtime, then the answer was no. The following week JVD took SRS into a room to explain the new pay structure that was coming and being used in the roseburg facility, and that PQ were now earning what SRS earned and they had commision as well.

Dell will screw anyone and everyone over, more often then not the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rocke...
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I'm surprised they didn't call it the Final Solution.

Or, the Leave No North American Employed Act.


Now that's funny... but sounds so true...

It truely looks like it is starting to happen...
Manufacturing in China...
Support/Sales India...

And this company founded in the U.S. - now globally located offshore and no longer in the U.S...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Money stopped acknowledging nation-states a long time ago. Money has no patriotism, no home. It goes where the profits are maximized. Money doesn't care if a 'nation' of 260million can no longer buy their products when there are up & coming nations of billions of consumers with cheap labour available. I've felt for the last decade or so that the west will eventually become the next 3rd world. Money has no problem packing its' bags & leaving home.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The REAL trouble will come when that money returns to buy our wheat. Screw rising oil prices; when bread hits $5 a loaf because we can no longer afford our own wheat, we are truly forked!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rocke_T_Sinetist wrote:
Stand up against it? Doesn't that get you sent to the class on which way the front door opens?


More often than not, yes indeed. Yet, a lot can be said for solidarity and strength in numbers. If, for example, every single rep that was force-fed this "Total Bullshit" scam with no commissions (or anyone else like DOC etc), and sold nothing for weeks...is Dell really going to fire the whole lot of them? Not likely. Will they try to make examples of a few to discourage the many? Possibly. In the end however, just keep selling nothing. Refuse. Demand remuneration for your work - if you sell, you make commission just like a sales rep would.

Dell only has a finite pool in which to pull from. This is the same in each state/country they operate in. You can't fire team after team, or 1000 people for "not doing their job". They wouldn't have anyone left to man the phones, and they'd be screwed. The term "finite" is the key one, and too many people fail to acknowledge that fact. The workers have more power than they realize, but they just don't gel enough to use it to their advantage.

So my point still stands about not standing up to decry this practice of "all work, no pay".
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employee@hell
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:16 am    Post subject: I HATE WORKING HERE Reply with quote

My F*****G manager does not do anything other than talking to his f****G wife all day long and he turns his f*****g head and tells us to make sales. Here in India we have to sell things to our poor customer even though they dont want it.
I'm really sorry you guys, but i have no choice. I'm desperately Looking out for a new job. Hope things goes well..
DELL, hope you get testicular cancer and hope your life is as F****D as a Man who's daughter and Wife got F*****D by a Rabid Dog
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:42 pm    Post subject: Re: I HATE WORKING HERE Reply with quote

employee@hell wrote:
My F*****G manager does not do anything other than talking to his f****G wife all day long and he turns his f*****g head and tells us to make sales. Here in India we have to sell things to our poor customer even though they dont want it.
I'm really sorry you guys, but i have no choice. I'm desperately Looking out for a new job. Hope things goes well..
DELL, hope you get testicular cancer and hope your life is as F****D as a Man who's daughter and Wife got F*****D by a Rabid Dog


Yo! Shocked

What do you say to that?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is what happens when Hell closes their support in North America, moves over to India and the Philippines and demands the same shit out of their tech workers. We were pushed to make Total Solutions sale because that "could" somehow magically save the call center as we were told. It didn't matter that we were the best technical support that Dell had, they still closed us down. What a load of shit management feed to us every day. So be aware India, you guys might be next in line for closing.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

madterps wrote:
So be aware India, you guys might be next in line for closing.


Shocked You mean Dell somehow managed to find cheaper labor than India?!
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