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madterps
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:11 pm    Post subject: Big Fuck You To Dell Reply with quote

Since it looks like Ottawa is closing, it's only right to say "fuck you" to all the greedy bastards that were the higher ups. Here's some names:

Vinay - You first tell us that Total Solutions is not mandatory, then the next thing you know, it became mandatory. You tell us you're available then I sent you an email about something, there's no response. Lastly some of the competent people that earn more got let go and all we're left with is a shell. I know you have no scruples or else you'd have trouble sleeping at night. You'll be out of a job soon and I'll be laughing at you.

MJ - The first thing they should've done is cut you. Your salary is more than 4 times some agents salary yet you were recalled to the States. The only time you were useful was when you were up on the podium and even then you have to refer questions to some one else. Then you force this total solutions bullshit upon people who aren't trained properly on the sales. I think your real primary job is to hold the curtains at the all hands on meeting.

And a special fuck you goes to Michael Dell and the board of directors for pushing out shitty half-baked product that don't work right. This is how you plan to gain back the market by reducing quality assurance to nothing and cut back on technical support like crazy? No wonder Dell has something in common with the Enron and it's not just the E.
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dellsucks888
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:18 pm    Post subject: Bonuses Reply with quote

does anybody know if were still goin g to get our bonuses that is promised to be given out march 21st , i know its a long shot , but has anybody heard anything?
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customer_don't_care
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you think the company modifier is going to be..... probably less than 50% due to the company's performance, and Ray Roman's "plan" to save money.
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HellResident
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ya technically I'm supposed to get that too...but somehow I dont think they'll bother. see it depends on your managers review of you. Well he was just fired so your review isnt finished is what they'llsay no review no bonus


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Fatty01
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dellsucks888 wrote:
does anybody know if were still goin g to get our bonuses that is promised to be given out march 21st , i know its a long shot , but has anybody heard anything?


Yes, we're still getting our bonuses.

customer_don't_care wrote:
What do you think the company modifier is going to be..... probably less than 50% due to the company's performance, and Ray Roman's "plan" to save money.


IMO, it's going to be at least 100%. The site is doing well, as is Dell. Layoffs are the name of the game; we work in the private sector.

I hate when people say 'oh clearly the site is closing'. They're not closing the site, they will continue to lay off people until we get a team of people that are focused on revenue. I could see them renting out some of the building or moving us to another, smaller building, though.
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CLCP4ME
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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IMO, it's going to be at least 100%. The site is doing well, as is Dell. Layoffs are the name of the game; we work in the private sector.

I hate when people say 'oh clearly the site is closing'. They're not closing the site, they will continue to lay off people until we get a team of people that are focused on revenue. I could see them renting out some of the building or moving us to another, smaller building, though.


Yes, you're quite right. Dell is doing so well that it continues on it's merry little 10% global headcount reduction. The Ottawa site is doing so well that they hustled XPS Chat support back to India faster then you could book a flight there. Dell is doing so well that Technicians are forced to sell sell sell to keep their jobs. Dell is doing soooo well that HP and Acer make more money. Am I missing anything here????

If what they want is a "team of people that are focused on revenue" then they don't need XPS tech support in Ottawa. What they need is a sales queue!
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StrangeFarer
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fatty01 wrote:
dellsucks888 wrote:
does anybody know if were still goin g to get our bonuses that is promised to be given out march 21st , i know its a long shot , but has anybody heard anything?


Yes, we're still getting our bonuses.

customer_don't_care wrote:
What do you think the company modifier is going to be..... probably less than 50% due to the company's performance, and Ray Roman's "plan" to save money.


IMO, it's going to be at least 100%. The site is doing well, as is Dell. Layoffs are the name of the game; we work in the private sector.

I hate when people say 'oh clearly the site is closing'. They're not closing the site, they will continue to lay off people until we get a team of people that are focused on revenue. I could see them renting out some of the building or moving us to another, smaller building, though.


Wow. Talk about an apologist. Either that, or you're deluded.

You talk about the forced and uncompensated sales conversions as though it's fair and just. You speak of how nothing is wrong, and that there will be no site closures. You project a big, fat, Dell-lovin' front.

You sound just like (almost) every manager at AO1 XPS, right before they axed the division, there. "...lie to them long enough to keep them from sabotaging us- try to find ways to create attrition, so we don't have to hand out WARN Act-required severance to the whole group. See if you can hide the truth long enough for us to get management other positions, while the folks on the phones get shafted, and flood the Nashville job market, effectively keeping them unemployed for months...then they'll crawl back to us, begging for a job at half what we were paying them..."

Next you'll be telling us that you did not have sex with that woman.

Man up, and accept that the company you're working for is acting unethically, immorally, and illegally. Stop apologizing, stop deriding and dismissing people who know, for a fact, what Dell's been up to, many of whom have experienced these things first hand.

Knock it off, in other words. I know that I, for one, am sick of people like you coming out of the woodwork, every time Dell pulls another stunt, like this, trying pitifully to cover for them. The people being hurt by this have a right to their say, and to try to vent some frustration, without some management-licking buttmonkey coming in after them and trying to make them look like liars.

I'm not a mod, I'm not admin, but I'm part of this community, and I know treachery, when I see it- a decade at Dell will attune one to that sort of thing.

Langston, is that you?? Your gel is cracking.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:27 am    Post subject: lay offs Reply with quote

add another Manager that got layed off yesterday Gerald Klausmann
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HellResident
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd agree...if you think the call center isnt closing or that being bilingual will in any way save you or anyoneelse, you are deluded.They'll move those jobs to france before they will keep an expensive building like the one they are in for a couple undred techs unless they were ramping up. They arent, they are ramping down. The decision is clearcut, kill off the expensive canadian labour until and unless the canadian dollar drops below the US one ( ya good luck with that) .
If you are in Ottawa call center and you arent already interviwing for new jobs, you are setting yourself up for unemployment insurance or welfare. Period.


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madterps
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HellResident wrote:
I'd agree...if you think the call center isnt closing or that being bilingual will in any way save you or anyoneelse, you are deluded.They'll move those jobs to france before they will keep an expensive building like the one they are in for a couple undred techs unless they were ramping up. They arent, they are ramping down. The decision is clearcut, kill off the expensive canadian labour until and unless the canadian dollar drops below the US one ( ya good luck with that) .
If you are in Ottawa call center and you arent already interviwing for new jobs, you are setting yourself up for unemployment insurance or welfare. Period.


HellResident


So true man, better start looking. Thankfully I'm on EI. This whole Ottawa situation is so messed up cause it's so hard to find IT works here and there are like thousands of people laid off. 10% of the people might get into the government but what about the rest? I wish the government would do something about this right now cause we don't need a big IT void in Ottawa.

PS: Can you imagine what the guy in India sounds like speaking French? * Shudders *
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FallenAngel
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Layoffs in Ottawa are just the calm before the storm. They want you to THINK that it's just layoffs. Do the math though and you'll see this ain't so. Why would they have a super huge building with less than 500 reps inside the halls?

Cost cutting? Not a chance.

The layoffs are just to take the heat off another scandal like they had in Edmonton. Layoff most, then close the doors for good. It's less sensational for them, and also takes preventative measures to ensure that the reps that are still working there will not sabotage the works by a mass walkout, or revolt.

Anyone that thinks Ottawa will still be standing by the end of the calendar year is delusional and needs to cut their meds in half. Ottawa is done. It's just limping out the door as opposed to jumping out the window like they did in Edmonton.
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