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Laptop sent to Memphis... What should I do?
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JohnHarold
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ojchillinndc wrote:
I can only assume that the keyboard you're talking about is a external one. I'm pretty sure you already tested the keyboard on the laptop to see if you get the same result.

I've tested it, and as best I can see, it's only that one key that malfunctions -- on both the keyboard that came installed with the repair, and the new keyboard they sent out.


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If you didn't, then you should be doing what my avatar is doing. But since you've been dealing with Dell, you're probably doing that anyway.

I'm trying to maintain a zen-like calm, but am beginning to sense that forces much larger than myself are conspiring - like a tsunami slowly building energy, still miles from shore - to drive me to the headbanging stage.


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Contact a friend and see if you could use one of their keyboards just for giggle and grins to see if you get the same results. Also see if you have a friend with a USB keyboard to see if that works.

My niece might have a keyboard I could try, on an old Dell of hers (she's since moved on to Apple).


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Also, with the broken laptop (if you haven't), test every key. Hit NUM LOCK, CAP LOCK. Test the FUNCTIONS KEYS, and the "F" keys up top. That way you can dell that more than one key is busted. Does the "?" work? If so, you may want to tell them that. If you have another computer or a friendly neighbor with a computer, try the busted keyboard on their computer.

Yeah, that's one thing -- I'm not sure how to check the function keys.

Maybe I'll try this download, free for thirty days.

http://www.passmark.com/products/keytest.htm


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You heard from Rock that these guys are not the most reliable. Do you really want to send your laptop to these guys AGAIN for a busted "/"? I know you want your laptop to work the way you paid for but after all your troubleshooting you find the only thing wrong is the "/" key. Maybe you want to think it over.

Well, here's my thinking -- if this backslash key issue does reflect a problem with the motherboard, then who knows what other sorts of problems are latent in there, just waiting for the 90-day warranty to run out, like a vampire waiting for sunset?

I seriously toyed with just saying eff it, I can live without a backslash key. But I'm worried that if I just blow it off, it will come back to bite me in the ass.


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You may get it back and the CDROM drive door opens everytime you hit the ENTER key. Then you'll really be doing what my avatar is doing. Mad

It's a frustrating situation... I know I'm taking a risk by sending it out again. It's like playing russian roulette.


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But, if you want a good keyboard, go with Microsoft or Logictech. I like there products. My six year old Dell desktop has a Microsoft keyboard that's older then it and treated it like crap and it's still going. Also, Logictech products take a beating and keep going as well. But it'll cost ya.

Thanks.
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Starman97
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds to me like they didnt replace the keyboard at all.
How likely is it that they replace a keyboard with a single bad key with another new one that just happens to have the same key bad?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I replaced the keyboard myself, with a new/refurbished keyboard sent by Dell.

I might also mention that I discovered a second key that's bad, the tilde (~) key. Before going ahead with the return, I plan to swap out the current keyboard for the previous one, and see if it's bad on that also. I suspect it will be.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's beginning to sound like a software problem, like you've got the wrong codepage loaded for your keyboard.
Dell makes keyboards localized for non-english language markets, some of the key mappings are different so they have a file that maps the keyboard to the local language. It almost sounds like you've got a wrong file loaded. One that does not have the backslash mapped to the key on your keyboard.

You need a low level utility that checks the key scan codes before the OS gets to map them. Something like this:
http://www.passmark.com/products/keytest.htm
http://www.kbdedit.com/manual/low_level.html
and see if that key generates scan codes when pressed and released.
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JohnHarold
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I downloaded the PassMark software yesterday, that's how I spotted the bad tilde key. That one and the backslash key come up bad on that software (don't register when pressed and released).

In terms of whether it's a software issue, I note that 3 different keys (space bar, backspace & enter key) were malfunctioning before I sent the machine in to be repaired, and I pulled the hard drive before sending it. I haven't changed any software relating to the keyboard since getting the machine back with its new/refurbished motherboard.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, good people. It's been awhile, but within about 4 weeks of my last post, after the third shipment to the repair center, Dell finally got the job done right.

I've had the computer for a couple of months since then, and it's functioning properly.

Wish the fuck they could have just gotten it right the first time.

But anyway, they finally did fix it -- although the process was indeed hellish.

Just felt like I wanted to wrap up the story for those of you out there sitting on tenterhooks, wondering how things worked out. Smile

I think, after the first two failed repairs, sending an email to the quality control people [ dick_hunter(at)Dell.com ] may have made a difference. If you're stuck out there in limbo trying to get something through Dell's service process, you might give that a shot. A factual and straightforward email seems like the best approach. At least, it worked for me.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, glad it's resolved. They CAN fix stuff, but most of the time they're unmotivated and their lowest-common-denominator performance is pretty bad.
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