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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:29 pm    Post subject: poor dell quality? Reply with quote

How many people have had problems with Dell's Build Quality?

I just replaced the keyboard and was shocked to see all the components are from Taiwan!!!!!!!!!!

I like the specs and price but i have learnt my lesson.You get what you pay for.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you mentally add all the surveys and reports of quality, Dell's is within single-digits of everyone else in the industry.

If you look at the designs and the issues that arise when they reach the field, you find Dell a LOT more haphazard than they were in 1999. I attribute some of that (particularly laptops) to Dell outsourcing designs to China.

Desktop design is still mostly US, but it's driven by 'BPI' (which is execuspeak for 'cheap') rather than sound engineering principles. Geezus tapdancing kraist! The entire generation of Dell desktops since Spring 2005 have a problem with the power switch actuator. If you can't turn the sunnuvabitch on, what CAN you do?

I attribute the rest of Dell's loss of engineering focus to precisely that--laying off engineers in favor of MBAs, making the workplace so adversarial that engineers can't focus on engineering, obsession with misplaced metrics like 'how many you build' rather than 'how many STAY built and working'.

You don't excel at producing an engineered product by staffing with only cost-reduction in mind. Dell does precisely that, and gets precisely the results anyone could predict.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 11:37 am    Post subject: Re: poor dell quality? Reply with quote

CrappyDell wrote:
How many people have had problems with Dell's Build Quality?

I just replaced the keyboard and was shocked to see all the components are from Taiwan!!!!!!!!!!

I like the specs and price but i have learnt my lesson.You get what you pay for.


Buy off ebay or Fry's Electronics(of something similar in your part of the world, Fry's is on the West Coast of the USA). They have name brand parts, ASUS, Gigabyte, Intel boards; Corsair or Kingston RAM and other things. Now you could build your own and it's really not rocket science like some people make to make it seem like, but if something breaks you have to troubleshoot what it was and send it back. Although honestly if you get good parts your getting about 3 years industry average on most things.

What you said suprises me you didn't know that, I believe in somewhere between 1999 and 2001 Dell just decided to stop making parts at all in the US. Sure they may put the parts together in the US at times but you open up a Dell and there is scarecely anything that is not a cheap POS part mimicked off a better brand with the words Made in China and Dell over it.

If you do have to buy a Dell get a longggg warranty, generally they don't like to do recalls in knowing they will have to ahead of time and try to make sure not to send stinkers to the people with warranties. If you do have to troubleshoot a part and it's Dell's fault if you are not part of a business you have to sit there forever to make them realize it's their part that's broke. They are very unfriendly too about trying to change their system at all, they lock the BIOS, tell you you can't buy a new chip but would you like to buy a whole other computer again?

Dell is turning into Ma Bell of computers, they offer shitty service, have crappy goods, and I'm guessing once they completely saturate the market they may try to stop lowering prices and may some day charge more. As long as people buy from competitors and build their own though I don't think that will happen. The most horrible thing was that I was going to buy an Alienware next and Dell bought that company!
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