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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:38 am    Post subject: new scope of support Reply with quote

hi yeah i'm new but i'm not having a good day so check this;

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Dell on call starts today (nov 15th)
we got a new scope of support today; we dont support anything but xp now and as far as what we do we are really limited and this pisses the customer off to find out that thier plan for support no longer is worth anything and they cant get a refund cause they have been helped previously (say it was a ME machine or even win2000) so now they got charged a 1yr plan and we no longer support thier pc. they cant get a refund i ask what to do and we are told to transfer them to sales and let them deal with it.....DELL is fucked up



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well.. it cut costs.
And this is the only thing that counts.

Holy crap..Are there any people with brains left in Management?
No need to answer..just rhetorical.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wherer are you transfering them to Home sales (co 19) or extended services?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this just for home dept? or is ACS changing too? Can anyone else verify this?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Transfer the customer over Extended Services, it's their problem and no one else's.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No I suspect he's in the same call center I am, the ottawa one. It's what WAS the software helpdesk, where the suckers were lined up from hardware to buy "Software contracts" . Now lets look at the product for one. The per incident support package has increased from $39 to $99 over the course of a year. It originally was the "S&P" plan which stands for software and peripherals. In the same time a yearly plan that provided unlimited support has increased from $189 to $249 for the same thing. You can take a PC to a computer store and probably have it fixed right for half the price.Also bear in mind alot of these are sold on computers that only cost $299 in the first place. In the same time the scope of support has shrunk from " If they come , we will fix it" to install uninstall only of a very thin line of programs.Essentially the product is now crap, but they have alot of the customers by the balls because when they call their ISP's to complain they have no internet they are told to call the manufacturer, so people get it in their head this is the only way their pc's will get fixed.Add to that Dell's own hardware department dumping anything they can't fix with a 90-90 diag and you get the picture.
Now enter dell on call. It's half the scope of support. and instead of unlimited, ( and the salespeople are STILL telling the peopl it's unlimited) people buy long contracts and now will be told "Sorry we don't support that anymore".Also customers get 5 issues only, then their plan is used up.
Well customers, this is good news to you. Here's why. Dell has turned down 1000's of refunds because people "recieved support". Recieved support, literally , can mean we told you to scan on a free antvirus site, or told you to push the power button and turn it on.So each of these cutomers are out in most cases for $189 for a contract they can't use. Well guess what, because the scope changed, you are entitled to a refund if you are not supported for your issue because it's now out of scope. This means you can call in with a phantom ME PC thats busted and say "But you told me any pc I own I was supported on for software" and then, demand a refund on your 1 year plan.As far as I know this is all home users so you optiplex guys don't need to worry.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in the abu helpdesk we still cover the same crap. Whatever you want as long as you don't say the word domain. Not that I care, I have just a few days left. So if a customer is epp they get a helpdesk that covers more then a consumer even though they should be considered the same group of people. Just more dell crap.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how much do the incident packages run for in the Dell on-call/Helpdesk dept? I've heard different prices.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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how much do the incident packages run for in the Dell on-call/Helpdesk dept? I've heard different prices.


First there are 2 different helpdesk's

1) Consumer, not supporting hardly anything anymore. They start at $99/incident. $239 for 4 incidents. I called them myself for that info. Laughing

2) Business, they have single incidents starting at $49 for anything that does not include a virus or spyware. A single incident for that is $69. They also have a 3 incident pack for $139 and a 5 incident pack for $199.

If you need more info, it's at www.dell.com/helpdesk
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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First there are 2 different helpdesk's

1) Consumer, not supporting hardly anything anymore. They start at $99/incident. $239 for 4 incidents. I called them myself for that info. Laughing

2) Business, they have single incidents starting at $49 for anything that does not include a virus or spyware. A single incident for that is $69. They also have a 3 incident pack for $139 and a 5 incident pack for $199.

If you need more info, it's at www.dell.com/helpdesk


Awesome, i appreciate the info Smile

I very rarely send people to helpdesk, so let me ask you this... do you support JUST the software that shipped with the system? or do you support pretty much everything? Also, do you charge the customer beforehand, and if you dont support their problem, do you refund the money back?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

delltech_jeremy wrote:
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First there are 2 different helpdesk's

1) Consumer, not supporting hardly anything anymore. They start at $99/incident. $239 for 4 incidents. I called them myself for that info. Laughing

2) Business, they have single incidents starting at $49 for anything that does not include a virus or spyware. A single incident for that is $69. They also have a 3 incident pack for $139 and a 5 incident pack for $199.

If you need more info, it's at www.dell.com/helpdesk


Awesome, i appreciate the info Smile

I very rarely send people to helpdesk, so let me ask you this... do you support JUST the software that shipped with the system? or do you support pretty much everything? Also, do you charge the customer beforehand, and if you dont support their problem, do you refund the money back?

=Much love=



That depends, in the business helpdesk(epp) we support anything but a domain. Though in consumer its pretty much virus/spyware, office, and bsods or other advance software. In business hd they can get a refund if they were not satisfied and in consumer they cannot. Though only about 10% of the calls in business helpdesk are actual businesses and the other 90% are epp aka discount consumers.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dell is finally correcting their mistake. So uncommon bout Dell. It now seems if a customer is not satisfied (consumer or business) can now ask for refund even after being helped and they can be offered additional incidents or a complete refund by a supervisor if asked for
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