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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:54 am    Post subject: My Inspiron 1720... Reply with quote

Firstly, appologies if this is the incorrect forum for my post - it's not a complaint as such and doesn't require a fix from anyone, but I had to share my experience for the sheer amusement factor. Feel free to move this post as appropriate.

I'm a UK customer - I've never ordered from Dell before - and to be honest I'd not even seen this forum prior to my decision to order from them. If I had, then I might have chosen a different brand, but hey...

I went online, specced out a top of the range Inspiron with all the bells and whistles, and placed the order. I got the obligatory emails stating delivery within 10 days... then two days later had a card through the door to say they'd tried to deliver my laptop. No problems so far - I stayed home from work the next day so I was in the next time it was delivered.

I received the laptop in a state of excitement, opened it, marvelled at the weight of it (muuuuuch heavier than my previous Asus laptop), and plugged the power lead in.

All the lights lit up as they should - surprisingly the battery was fully charged. I shrugged and pressed the power button.

<BEEP> No Bootable Media detected...

I checked the BIOS - it indicated NOT PRESENT in both HDD slots...

Surely they hadn't shipped it without hard-drives???

No. Nothing quite so simple...

I opened the bay on the bottom of the laptop, expecting to see nothing. To my surprise both disks were present.

What was not present however were the six screws necessary to hold the drives in place. During transit the drives had been shaken loose of the contacts (rather than being pins, Dell seem to use slot like blade connectors on their caddys) and the BIOS had reported them missing.

My wife was angrier than I was, after all I'd spent over £1200 on this laptop and they couldn't screw the drives in properly? To be honest I was amused more than anything.

A quick fix later (I secured the drives with heat-resistant foam like the mounts inside Toughbooks) and everything worked fine - and has ever since.

I still chuckle over it though... and thank my stars that I seem to have dodged most of the troubles so far that others have detailed on these forums. I don't fancy wading through Dell Customer Service just for the sake of 6 tiny screws!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just be sure you didnt cover the vents with that foam. Those drives can cook pretty easily.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

diashto wrote:
Just be sure you didnt cover the vents with that foam. Those drives can cook pretty easily.


No fear of that - I've not wrapped them or anything, just used a small block of foam between the hatch-cover and the pin-end of the drive to help hold them in place when the hatch is closed. Plenty of air circulation room in there.

I plan on replacing the drives when the warranty runs out anyways since they're only 5400rpm and I fancy something a bit faster than that... besides solid-state drives should have come down in price by that time too!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's weak alright, but not uncommon. I used to get desktops back from the field, dead out of the box, with the floppy not screwed in. Now I know why they call them "floppy". If flopped around inside the case during shipping and destroyed the motherboard.

Dell is also semi notorious for not screwing the heatsink down. It won't run longer than 10 minutes that way. The assemblers have to churn out a certain number of boxes and if they get behind they just skip stuff.

Dell used to operate each system for an hour before shipping, but I'm pretty sure they skip that step now. Just throw the stuff in the box, throw the box in another box, and out the door.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rocke_T_Sinetist wrote:
Dell used to operate each system for an hour before shipping, but I'm pretty sure they skip that step now. Just throw the stuff in the box, throw the box in another box, and out the door.


Here's hoping that the screws are the only thing they've missed - I use the laptop pretty intensively, it does heat up some after four-five hours solid use, but not too alarmingly. I guess there's no way of knowing what else might be wrong until something obvious happens... until then I'm actually a pretty satisfied customer!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd go out on a limb and suspect that Dell and their staff no longer care about procedure, if there even is any. Amidst all the employee cuts and scandals, it's not a far stretch to think that some operational guidelines have been cut or reworked. If that includes no longer testing for at least 1 hour before packing, this wouldn't surprise me in the least.

You're far more patient than I would've been. Observing missing parts, especially screws to keep things where they should be, would've been enough for me to call Dell and tear a strip off of them in monumental way.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep. Manufacturing staff is not measured on procedure, only number of boxes per hour/shift. And there is no linking of defects back to the operator who processed them (ISO).

The psychology of getting something new works against customers. They want the product to work, sometimes to the extent of completing the negligent assembly on their own.

To really cover yourself and get value for what you spent, out-of-box defects should be sent back for credit. Requesting exchange doesn't guarantee you the 'new' product you paid for. I'd go as far as to say that a DOA is a bad omen, and spend the refund with another vendor rather than giving Dell a second chance.

But there's that psychology thing again. Customers are reluctant to conclude that their original decision was in error and reverse it.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FallenAngel wrote:
You're far more patient than I would've been. Observing missing parts, especially screws to keep things where they should be, would've been enough for me to call Dell and tear a strip off of them in monumental way.


Well, it was tempting to begin with but I tend to try to fix stuff myself, I'm happier that way. No need to chew out the person on the phone when it was the person in Quality Control who missed the fault I say!
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rocke_T_Sinetist wrote:
To really cover yourself and get value for what you spent, out-of-box defects should be sent back for credit.


True, normally with something as expensive as this I would have - but I needed the laptop for work urgently, and couldn't afford the time without it once I'd got it. Had the fault been any more serious then it would have been returned as you suggested!
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The person to whom you refer was laid off quite some time ago. Laughing
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