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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:15 pm    Post subject: inspiron 9300 never started, frustrated Reply with quote

I ordered an Inspiron 9300 for my brother, it came yesterday, and it never started. You can hear the hard drive starting up, and for some reason the caps lock light keeps flashing, and after about 10 seconds it just goes off.

My father used some electricity meter on the AC adapter and apparently there's no electricity coming though it, even though the green light is on on the adapter. I don't know if that's really the problem, though...

I called Dell tech support and they were really dismissive of that even potentially being the issue, they had me take out the battery twice, take out the hard drive and put it back in, and take the RAM out and put it back in. Nothing worked.

I was supposed to be sent a box today to send it back to the depot and it never arrived, I called them back and they said they don't know when it will get here. I almost feel they should just replace the whole thing, it's brand new, but I know that's not going to happen. I wish they could just send someone to my house to look at it, but I guess that's not in my warranty.

I am really frustrated. I am sick of talking to Indians who I can barely understand (sorry), and I'm sick of hearing "sorry about this problem, it's very rare."

This was supposed to be a birthday present, I think he's lucky if he even ends up getting it for Christmas.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the forum Exclamation

If you are inside the first 21 days from ivoice, call Customer Care and ask for a full CRA (Credit Return Authorization). It's Dell's fault you don't have a working laptop, so shipping & handling must be at their expense.

Otherwise, contact Technical Support and tell them that you don't want it fixed. It never worked, you already tried to troubleshoot it and nothing happened.

Please keep us posted and hold on till a Tech reads your post so s/he can help better than me Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paul_dellcc wrote:
Welcome to the forum Exclamation

If you are inside the first 21 days from ivoice, call Customer Care and ask for a full CRA (Credit Return Authorization). It's Dell's fault you don't have a working laptop, so shipping & handling must be at their expense.

Otherwise, contact Technical Support and tell them that you don't want it fixed. It never worked, you already tried to troubleshoot it and nothing happened.

Please keep us posted and hold on till a Tech reads your post so s/he can help better than me Wink


Unfortunately Paul, the second part is not true. Tech support will not replace a system unless several, (at least 3) attempts have been made to repair it. Unfair Question Hell yes, but the man has to screw you over some how. But, customer care should be able to return the system free of charge. If you purchase it through a regular consumer account, the phone number is 800-497-9897
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did know they must troubleshoot the problem before a full system EXG is sent, what I didn't know is that he should try at least three times...

Thanks Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:53 pm    Post subject: Re: inspiron 9300 never started, frustrated Reply with quote

chevelle wrote:
I ordered an Inspiron 9300 for my brother, it came yesterday, and it never started. You can hear the hard drive starting up, and for some reason the caps lock light keeps flashing, and after about 10 seconds it just goes off.

My father used some electricity meter on the AC adapter and apparently there's no electricity coming though it, even though the green light is on on the adapter. I don't know if that's really the problem, though...


Just for the record, could you tell us which AC adapter it is? There have been many issues with those for years now.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you are inside the first 21 days from ivoice, call Customer Care and ask for a full CRA (Credit Return Authorization). It's Dell's fault you don't have a working laptop, so shipping & handling must be at their expense.
Best route. If you let Tech dawdle and stall and dribble you parts for 3 weeks, you can still have an inoperative system and the 21-day satisfaction guarantee will be a LOT harder to invoke.

You can't definitively diagnose the adapter with a meter. Take the battery out, press the 'test' button. If more than 1 LED lights up, the battery has enough power to at least start the system. Unplug the adapter from the laptop and try again. If it does the same thing, it's the motherboard. Demand a new system. If the battery test LEDs do not light at all, never mind what's wrong with it, just demand a new system.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried demanding a new system, I was just handed off to multiple people, I asked for a manager, they told me one wasn't available. A manager called me back, although I don't really know why, all he told me was they would fix the laptop and make me a "happy and satisfied Dell customer" which I found pretty funny.

All I could do is what they would let me do, which is ship it back to them via DHL. I mean, I suppose it could come back fixed and never have another problem, but I really just feel I shold be getting a new computer, however, I'm sick of arguing with them.

I told my parents we should just return the whole thing, I guess they want to see if it's actually fixed though. This is the third Dell I've purchased...I've never had a problem with my Dell laptop (an Inspiron 8500) but we have a Dell Dimension and a month after we have it, the fan broke and it overheated and they had to send someone to come fix it.

I guess I'll just have to wait and see how this turns out. Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Chevelle

It's like I said, Tech support will not replace a system until at least 3 attempts have been made to fix it. You do have a 21 day satisfaction guaranteed policy on your system Customer Care is the dept., to talk to about getting a system exchange. They have to allow you to return the system no questions asked. The phone number to consumer customer care is 1800-497-9897. Talk to them asap.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope Chevelle checks back before the 21 days is up. The distinction between calling Tech and calling Customer Care is a very important one.

Tech does the same thing (send parts or have you mail it in) from the day it arrives until the warranty expires. They are very unlikely to tell you about the 21-day satisfaction return. Mostly, they won't even give you the number to CC. They are told to do two things above all others-- protect Dell, and get you off the phone FAST. Not to explain things, give options, satisfy you in ANY WAY.

Care is the only department authorized to invoke the 21-day satisfaction guarantee.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gee...CC will try to "save the sale"...

So go ahead and ask for a return. You may get a good compensation Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two words...

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They have to allow you to return the system no questions asked. The phone number to consumer customer care is 1800-497-9897. Talk to them asap.


That phone number is some incredibly sweet woman's private 800 number. She said it's not the first time someone has called her thinking she was Dell.

Anyway, I called Customer Care (1-800-624-9897) but when I told them the computer was shipped back for repair, I was immediately transferred over to tech support where I was on hold for well over 30 minutes. All the guy told me was that the computer was fixed, and I'm supposed to get it back today. It was a bad motherboard. Don't they test them to see if they even turn on before they ship them out?

I purchased the computer November 16th...I should have just returned it to begin with, now I guess if it works, I'll just end up keeping it, I am so sick of being put on hold, being transferred, having to explain myself a million times, and yelling at people who only read standard comments back to me.

I'm not thrilled with having a computer that didn't work the first time. I'd be happy if they would just extend my warranty. I had a roommate blow out the motherboard on my computer in college, I had it repaired, and two years later it broke again because I was given a bad part. I just hope that doesn't happen this time.

The tech people don't know anything about the 21 Day return policy (well, they won't talk to me about it) and since the computer was sent to the depot and they're positive that everything is all well and good now, customer care doesn't even want to bother with me, they transfer me.

I will never purchase another Dell, and I have been a pretty loyal customer. I just don't even know what good kinds of notebook computers there are....I've been warned about Compaq, HP, and Gateway, and I've known people who have had terrible experiences with Sony and Toshiba.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds like every computer is not going to be on your list. You could try a *gasp* Mac?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The person who the computer was purchased for has an old iBook and complains that he can't play video games on it and that this makes Macs suck, so he demanded we get him a PC so a Mac wasn't exactly an option in this case.

Actually, he wanted an Alienware or something, but the one he wanted seemed really overpriced.

IBM isn't on my list. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am so sick of being put on hold, being transferred, having to explain myself a million times, and yelling at people who only read standard comments back to me.
That's exactly the impression Dell WANTS you to come away with. Every time someone calls, it costs them money. Their 'model' is, making "calling Dell" so disagreeable an experience that nobody does it.

As we find ourselves now, in late 2005, the preferred model for acquiring computer hardware is brick-and-mortar retailers. Not because the product is different, it isn't substantially. But because the product is worth NOTHING if it doesn't work, and storefront retailers do not stonewall customers who come to them with service issues.
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