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paul_dellcc
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Moderator Remarks. Reply with quote

parkrapids041757 wrote:
First, thank you for replying to my Jul 29, 2007 post on November 18, 2007. Somebody else must not be looking around here too much.


No problem, topic was updated and I did as well.

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Second, after reading your smart *** post, I thought I had really screwed up and followed the link you posted. It said it was only available to moderators.

"Sorry, but only moderators can read topics in this forum."

No access. Think before posting maybe. Again, somebody else must not be looking around here too much.


1854 posts vs 4...I'm the one who's not looking around too much, yeah. Dunno why that link requires mod access, it shouldn't but I don't care IhateDell.net got screwed up since the new guy put his hands on it.

"Probably" is not a fact. I could say you are probably stupid.

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Also, I sent a message to the moderators of this forum after first seeing that very mature, adult, marketing genious "Probably A Spammer" label on my first post. I still seem to be waiting for an answer.


I didn't get any message.

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Do they have an IHateTheIHateDellWebsite.net? What a bunch of clowns. I'm sure this post will disappear within minutes if it ever makes it in the first place. Doesn't matter. I'm done posting on this site.


No censorship here. Piss off nobody will miss comments like "I challenge anyone to hate Dell more than I do!" haha That's the big deal any Dell customer has, they all think they are the biggest customer Dell ever had and that their problem is the biggest as well hahaha.

Get the fu*k out you uncle sam wannabe.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:00 pm    Post subject: Thank you. I rest my case Reply with quote

Shooting off your mouth thousands of times since 2004 and losing your cool when someone decides to respond to your insults is called posting, not looking around.

4 posts since this last summer is called reading a lot and only posting when I have something to add.

Very convenient that things were never received or answered. I little anti-USA thrown in for good measure. Very sharp. Very professional. Downright awesome.

Don't forget to delete me from your user list. Your domain name has been blacklisted on my mail server. That should wrap it up.

Bye Bye now. Very Happy

"Probably A Spammer"


Ooops. One more thing. You kind of have an "Ihateverything" deal going for you, don't you?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you look around but you don't read. If you did you'd know that there is no censorship here, therefore not you nor your posts are going to be deleted.

Say whatever you want, your comments harm nobody, it's like getting pissed off because a mentaly disabled kid laughs at you...

I've been here for a long time, got respect from the users, mods and the owner. What about you ? You came here because you are a cheap bastard that bought at Dell for that reason. You came here whining and crying, you did the same thing about a stupid forum rank "probably a spammer" oh yeah, you are so professional.

Good bye, nobody will miss you.



PS: you really think I'm gonna delete your posts ? You really think that if you push more you'll get it ? Nah, I'm having so much fun with you uncle sam wannabe, haven't you "looked around" that the forum is dead ? Thank you !!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="paul_dellcc"]

I've been here for a long time, got respect from the users, mods and the owner. What about you ? You came here because you are a cheap bastard that bought at Dell for that reason. You came here whining and crying, you did the same thing about a stupid forum rank "probably a spammer" oh yeah, you are so professional.

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Aside from this questionable person/troll?, not everyone who comes here is a "cheap bastard that bought at Dell for that reason". At least I hope you don't believe that....my Dimension 8300, with a very nice monitor, cost $2200...I don't think that is "cheap"...yet I am here because the first tower failed within one week and the replacement at less than 2 years old and Dell, of course, was shit about it even though I had a three year next business day in house warranty. "Cheap" are the $400 machines plus monitor sold on Black Friday. XPS buyers have lots of problems too and they sure can't be characterized as "cheap bastards".
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me explain why I call Dell customers cheap bastards.

I'm a consumer too, I buy stuff, I'm a customer as well. I'd never buy a product I haven't seen, touched, tested if possible. I'm not talking about a mouse ok, don't be silly.

On the other hand, I always take a look where the products come from. If I had to buy a digital camera, a video camera for example, I'd go for Sony, and it must be made in Japan (no Taiwan, no China) and that's not negotiable, it's a fact. Hope you are following me.

Dell doesn't build sh*t. They just put parts together. They just put their logo on. Dell has no face, Dell has no building (yeah they do, try to talk to Mike or go to their HQ) Dell is just a webpage, a phone call.

The problem here is HUGE. Right from the start where the potential buyer calls, expecting to get a $299 pc that will run anything you put on it. Sales rep lying to this cheap bastard it does. Technical support will tell him to add ram, but he can't, because Dell engineers are so clever you have no bays in the mobo to do it. Cheap bastard will call Customer Care totally agravated, angry, furious, CC will give him free stuff and he'll be so freaking happy. Don't forget the English and the accent...both cheap bastards and Dell don't give a f*ck about reps level of English, if they did, THEY WOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, like stop calling and hiring reps with better lvl of English.

So right from the start, from customers, employees, management, engineering, mike, it's all messed up. So why on earth would I buy at Dell if it is not because of their cheap prices ?


Something I want to add so everyone can understand me, I'm a cheap bastard myself. You think I'm millionaire ? No, I buy crappy cheap things if I can't afford quality, but you know what ? I don't fu*king cry about it.



Heya uncle sam wannabe, I know you'r reading this, thanks for the fun, it was good Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to update, my issue with Dell has finally been resolved as I have received the cheque in question yesterday.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

paul_dellcc wrote:
Let me explain why I call Dell customers cheap bastards.

I'm a consumer too, I buy stuff, I'm a customer as well. I'd never buy a product I haven't seen, touched, tested if possible. I'm not talking about a mouse ok, don't be silly.

On the other hand, I always take a look where the products come from. If I had to buy a digital camera, a video camera for example, I'd go for Sony, and it must be made in Japan (no Taiwan, no China) and that's not negotiable, it's a fact. Hope you are following me.


So right from the start, from customers, employees, management, engineering, mike, it's all messed up. So why on earth would I buy at Dell if it is not because of their cheap prices ?



Sony?? After the rootkit fiasco...twice...the last time just a few months ago? You have to be kidding me. I prefer Sony TVs but no Sony for me after that crap they pulled...never.

As for everyone who has bought from Dell buying only because they are cheap bastards you are wrong. A LOT of folks did just what I did. I had a great experience with my first computer back in 1999. I carefully chose to buy from Dell and everyone here thought I was nuts. I wasn't though...not back then. That was a well made computer. It still runs just fine and will be nine years old next May. Never had any problems with it except a floppy drive replacement at the fourth year. Dell support was fantastic when I called the first year several times because I got a BSOD and didn't yet know what to do. I learned fast though and I didn't have hardware problems except one time when I got my only virus ever...a stealth boot one and the Florida call center spent four days on the phone with me about 4 hours a day because we couldn't figure out what exactly was the problem. They were fantastic too and they loved their work. That call was end of October 2000 (computer purchased May 31, 1999). I didn't have to call Dell again until I was ready to purchase a new computer in Oct 2003.

How was I supposed to know how awful Dell had become between Oct 2000 and Oct 2003? I didn't and you cannot claim that I was a cheap bastard and that is why I bought from Dell again. That is as far from the truth as it is possible to get and I resent you calling me a cheap bastard. I think a lot of other folks just like me would be as angry at you as they are at Dell if they read your crazy comment. I agree that SOME Dell buyers are cheap bastards but that is ONLY SOME. Now, in 2007, I would say the vast majority of Dell buyers are cheap bastards because by now the word is out about Dell. It wasn't in 2003...especially not for someone who had a fantastic experience with their first Dell. I remember hearing a few rumors but I immediately dismissed them because the Dell I knew didn't fit those rumors at all.

I was absolutely stunned when I got my new 8300 and the shit hit the fan almost immediately because the expensive monitor I ordered wouldn't turn on and I had to call Dell and got plunged into hell. If you want to characterize me as a "stupid idiot" that would fit better than "cheap bastard" although I don't think I was that much of a stupid idiot either. I have talked to countless Dell owners who had almost the same experience as I did back in 2003. Today, yes, users buy from Dell mostly because they are cheap bastards. However, I still encounter all over the net, and here in my hometown, many naive persons who have heard nothing bad about Dell and I try and warn them and they can't believe it because why? They know someone who has a Dell from the late 90's that still works great and never had problems...ergo...Dell computers must still be great.

Further, how can you characterize the XPS buyers as cheap bastards? Again, they may be stupid idiots but certainly not cheap with the prices they pay eagerly for the XPS. I just saw a stunning ad in the latest Time magazine for a fabulous looking new XPS "All in One"...even with what I know now about Dell...I was drooling.

If I were to buy from Dell ever again, it would not be because I am a cheap bastard. I would buy an XPS and spend $2000 - 3000 or more. Why would I do this? Better to go with the enemy you know than the one you don't. And ALL PC manufacturers SUCK. I was considering HP for my next computer until I heard worst stuff from a number of local folks about them than anything I have heard about Dell and even Office Max that sells HP here doesn't recommend them. I honestly don't know what I will do next year. Another reason to buy another Dell would be that I can put XP on it using the Dell disks I have. I won't ever use Vista and XP can only be sold OEM until end of June 2008 and Dell isn't offering it on the machines I might be vaguely interested in. So, how would spending $2000-3000 on a Dell, so I could put XP on it, make me a cheap bastard? The only way "cheap" could be applied is that I don't want to have to pay for Vista and then have to buy XP and I wouldn't if I got another Dell. Another small, but not at all insignificant, issue that would cause me to look to Dell and not other OEMs is that Dell is the ONLY OEM that supplies a full OS Reinstallation disk. The others have the absolute nightmare crap Recovery disks or worse that horrible mirror image garbage and NO disks. I would never buy a computer that did not come with a full Reinstallation disk. I can look at some places on the Mainland that will build me a computer to order and build a good one...but...what about support out here in Hawaii and not on Oahu even? I know folks who have done that and been very sorry. So, why folks buy from Dell is not always the simple "cheapness" that you subscribe to everyone's motives.

I suspect that by next summer, I may decide to say "screw it" to all computers and find something else interesting and stimulating to do.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sooner or later you will come over to the multi-colored side..
Apple.

Why, not because of their hardware, but because of Vista.
I have several Macs, a 5 pack 10.5 license cost $159,
no nagware, no WGA, no secret calls home to the mothership in the night.

Apple's hardware is made by the same people who make HP and Dell,
it's how they manage Foxconn that determines how good the machine is.
They do make premium machines well, ie XPS and Mac tower and HP's Blackbird. They can also make crap like $399 'servers' and whatever sells at Walmart.

As far as support goes, you hear some Apple horror stories, like 'my laptop gets greasy handprints on it and they wont wash off'
OMG, the Horror, the Horror.. Smile
But really, think about their userbase and what a nightmare it must be to handle. Dell could learn a few things from them. Funny thing that, now Dell laptops come in multiple 'colors' (assuming you can get one)
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still think the same, I still stick to what I wrote.

True gamers will build their pc by themselves, and if they look around they will find better prices than Dell's.

Video editing ? Mac, end of story.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

paul_dellcc wrote:
I still think the same, I still stick to what I wrote.

True gamers will build their pc by themselves, and if they look around they will find better prices than Dell's.

Video editing ? Mac, end of story.


I'm not a gamer. Where did you get that idea? The XPS is the only decent machine Dell offers. A lot of folks who are not gamers buy it.

I guess I need to find another Dell critical site to post at as you are both irrational (when you call someone a "cheap bastard" when they spend over $2000 on a Dell computer) and rude. I know Dell dealt you a really raw deal but that doesn't give you the right label me a "cheap bastard". If I didn't know better, I'd almost think you had been hired by Dell to stir up dissention here.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mele20 wrote:
If I didn't know better, I'd almost think you had been hired by Dell to stir up dissention here.


That has no sense at all. I'm telling you don't buy at Dell, I'm telling you what Dell flaws are.

If I have the right or not to say something, well, I do. Now if that offends you, it's another story. If you are not a cheap bastard, then why you bother ?

Let me say whatever I want, being wrong and foolish.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:08 pm    Post subject: Dell Lies!!! Reply with quote

That's Dell's motto and middle name "LIERS" Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:02 pm    Post subject: Dealing With Ambiguity? Reply with quote

ambiguity

noun
1. an expression whose meaning cannot be determined from its context
2. unclearness by virtue of having more than one meaning

What this means when translated is that I can lie to you then tell you is was not a lie that the situation was just an AMBIGUITY!

It's like "WINNING CULTURE" along with "LIFESTYLE AND WORK BALANCE"!

Then of course there is reality! Realty totally displaces the other two terms with depression, exhaustion and the pit in your stomach from being lied to and mistreated.... thus Dealing With Ambiguity?

It all works out real "WELL AT DELL"
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

paul_dellcc wrote:
Mele20 wrote:
If I didn't know better, I'd almost think you had been hired by Dell to stir up dissention here.


That has no sense at all. I'm telling you don't buy at Dell, I'm telling you what Dell flaws are.

If I have the right or not to say something, well, I do. Now if that offends you, it's another story. If you are not a cheap bastard, then why you bother ?

Let me say whatever I want, being wrong and foolish.


Sure, I agree you have the right to say what you want. But what you have not explained is how you can call someone a "cheap bastard" (actually that should be "bitch" as I am a female) when they spend over $2000 on a computer. I agree that someone who buys a Dell at Wal-Mart or one of those horrible Vostros that were being sold on Black Friday from the Small Business site for $399 are cheap bastards/bitches but I disagree that someone who buys an XPS for well over $2000 can be characterized in the same manner. Are you claiming that ANYONE who purchases from Dell, no matter if they spend $300 or $4000 on the computer, is a "cheap bastard/bitch"? It sounds like that is what you are saying and that makes no sense to me.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mele20 wrote:
Are you claiming that ANYONE who purchases from Dell, no matter if they spend $300 or $4000 on the computer, is a "cheap bastard/bitch"? It sounds like that is what you are saying and that makes no sense to me.


I think the point Paul was making is that if the shoe fits, wear it. Sounds to me like it doesn't so no worries Smile.
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