Dell complaints

FallenAngel · Super Hater Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Posts: 1490

If you promote a "cause" within the workplace, I am all for that. In fact, I've been known to spread a cause or 2 in my day at the workplace.

Being gay is not a cause.

Neither is being a minority.

Neither one should be rammed down the public gullet with such fervor. Declaring every other day as white man's day has some appeal to it, and a sensibility. However, unlike minorities and the overall gay community...when was the last time you heard a white man or woman walk down the middle of any street proudly "pounding their chest" declaring "I'm white and I'm proud"?

I've seen enough documentaries on A&E and such to know that this behavior is typically reserved for the true racists who happen to wear white hoods and so forth.

I myself have never walked up to someone and spouted off, "I'm white and I'm proud...get used to it". Nor would I ever. I know who I am, and if you know who you are then great. Is it really necessary to have the masses around you know as well, just for the sake of knowing?

We know there are visible minorities.

We know there are gays and lesbians.

Does it have to be pushed to us in some weak kneed, knee jerk reactionary way that is set forth by PR hounds and people that pander for free press?

No.

My social circle covers just about every gender, race, creed, and orientation known and available. Not one of these people are impressed with the cries so often heard from minorities and the GALA groups. ANd they are PARTS of those groups. When your own colleagues and kinsmen/women are decrying the nonsense, what does that tell you?

They're quite content to just be gay...or lesbian...or ethnic...or a minority...or old...or young...or fat...and so on. They have no interest in force feeding the public.

Shame that so many still do, however. And cry foul when someone of a non minority or non gay community speaks up about their views. Damn shame.

element72 · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:29 pm Post subject: Alex aka gaypride

Alex, AKA "Gaypride" :

You need some "diversity training" yourself. Gaypride you are just another example of an angry person that has no place preaching your personal lifestyle "choices", especially in the workplace.. Gay or straight sexual orientation and white or black race hate preaching does not belong in the workplace, period. Once again, this is not an issue of hating anyone for anything. Its a matter of freedom of a personal choice to agree or not to agee , especially if shoved down your throat , in the workplace. Its okay for you not to agree with someone who doesnt want to hear about a proud sexual orientation month, but its not okay for them to not want to hear it? Hmmm.....interesting double standard, I'd say.

winning_culture_is_a_lie

I think it is quite funny how much "churn" this issue has caused. Adam Covey is nothing more than ignorant.

His e-mail was ignorant. His statements were ignorant. And I have say that most of the postings on this issue represent a fair amount of ignorance.

How many of you even attend Mr. Takei's presentation? He did speak about GLBT issues for a few minutes. However, the vast majority of his talk was about his experiences in a Japanese POW camp in the United States. He spoke about many of the political injustices experienced by Asian-Americans during WWII, and how many of those prisoners chose to join the US military and fought valiantly while their families were still imprisoned.

There was no "force feeding" of GLBT agendas on to the audience. I actually thought it was pretty damn good.

element72

Then why was is promoted as a Gaypride event? Now we are adding decieving to the list.

winning_culture_is_a_lie

FallenAngel · Super Hater Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Posts: 1490

Sounds like bait n' switch.

But that never happens at Dell. Rolling Eyes

always_screwed · Hates with a Vengance Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Posts: 58

Dell has made their bed, now they will lay in the bed they made. This was the only company I've ever worked for that promoted and celebrated gay pride. Wonder if Michael Dell is gay? Since he promotes this in his company.

Just a thought??? Shocked

FallenAngel · Super Hater Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Posts: 1490

If he is, does his wife know? Shocked

PGrefugee · Regular Hater Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 49

I received the following message in me inbox from Ellen P, Dell Information Development,

FallenAngel · Super Hater Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Posts: 1490

Well done PG. Very Happy

Rocke_T_Sinetist · Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:36 pm Post subject:

Ellen P contacted me to have this thread deleted. I told her that was not going to happen, but I would go back and remove her full name and phone number. Not sure why I went that far out of my way, just my 'nice guy' instinct. She didn't provide a link to the post, I had to go dig it out. Having been 'excessed' from Dell (job sent to China), I have time to do such things.

Here is my response to Ellen P:

hotrodlincoln · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:22 pm Post subject:

Rocke_T_Sinetist · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:44 pm Post subject:

"Throw weight around"? I didn't read it that way.

First, in the email she was saying--from the same level as the original complainer--STFU. And she CC'd it to the product group just like he did. A person in authority wouldn't have done that. She got 'spoken to' about the CC, but had already resigned with notice. She had no weight to throw, she was a document clerk on her way out, and responded from a position of indignation AND having nothing to lose.

Second, she doesn't like personally-identifying data posted on the internet. Neither do you or I, that's why we're tactfully anonymous. She Googled her name and it brought her here. I Google my own name every once in a while, just to make sure it doesn't go anywhere I don't want employers for example, looking. It's like checking your credit report.

Aside: In my position, anyone who asks for a resume gets one. If I were good at networking, I wouldn't be in 'my position'. Therefore I take every opportunity to improve that parameter.
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spfeffer · one bitch wonder Joined: 01 Nov 2007 Posts: 3

Ha ha ha, that is funny. One thing that puzzles me about dell is that they didnt do anything for 911 but they sure the fuck got black history month asian pride month, gay pride and so on, I asked a manager about that and they never got back to me...imagine that

If I offended anyone I do not have a problem with anyone, why only select a few things to celebrate oh ya I am also tired of those damn charities it's always diabetes or freakin cancer....

Rufus317 · Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:58 am Post subject: one

There is only one race . The Human race. plain and simple. And that brothers and sisters is the Gods own truth.
And as ive said over and over. I don't care who or what you do. And like it or not having to focus on something that in no way increases my income in a commission based environment is a distraction and therefore needs to be removed.

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