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Rocke_T_Sinetist
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 Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject: Banning GMAIL |
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We are considering banning GMAIL as an address from which one can register for posting access to this board, as almost all porn spam originates from GMAIL accounts.
It should not disable existing accounts, but will prevent anyone with a GMAIL address from registering in the future.
How do you feel about this, versus the disgusting spam to which we're exposed almost hourly?
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| I'm all for it Rocke if it helps reduce the spams. But do you think that then the spammers will just switch to Excite or Yahoo mail? My opinion is that the moderators just should delete the spam as soon as they see it. |
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Rocke_T_Sinetist
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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We do delete it, sometimes when the spammer is still online. I have even deleted obvious spammer accounts BEFORE they ever post. But even that extreme doesn't keep up with it.
Other anonymous/transient email services can be banned, just as gmail can. What we don't know for certain is how that might affect users in good standing who registered through a transient account.
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Apathy
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:16 am Post subject: |
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| Rocke_T_Sinetist wrote: | | Other anonymous/transient email services can be banned, just as gmail can. What we don't know for certain is how that might affect users in good standing who registered through a transient account. |
Rocke, I may have to rethink my decision about banning all anonymous/transient email services (considering I use one as well) for the same reasons that guest_s stated in another post. Especially since right now we have no way of knowing how this will affect legitimate users.
I think a better solution to the spam problem might be a way to keep posters from including images and urls in their posts until they have reached a certain number of posts.
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Mele20
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:12 am Post subject: |
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I think a better solution to the spam problem might be a way to keep posters from including images and urls in their posts until they have reached a certain number of posts. |
I like this idea. My antivirus vendor just instituted something similar on their forum. If you are new to that forum you can start a thread but cannot post urls, links to screenshots, etc. and you cannot reply to any posts in other threads. You also cannot even read hidden forums such as the Off Topic one where there had been a lot of problems. You have to EARN the right to become a TRUSTED member and when granted that status then you can post freely on the forum (as long as you abide by the TOS) and read and post to the Off Topic forum also.
Something, not the same as what Avira forum has now, following the idea of restriction until proven worthy might work quite effectively here. Many regulars to Avira forum were denied Trusted member status when the new rules and new forum software went into effect. There was not a lot of protest about it which sort of surprised me and gradually these long time regulars are being granted Trusted status. New members have a several month wait after their first post before they are considered for Trusted membership. |
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StrangeFarer
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But...but...
Aw, hell, man- do what you need to do. I have to agree with the "can't use pics until they're tenured" idea, myself. I was going to plead my case for GMail, since I've pretty much (finally) completely switched-over to it, eschewing all POP accounts.
It wouldn't be so obnoxious, if they didn't go for the really tasteless and tacky pics. Noooo- they've got to hit us with the vile stuff. |
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Rocke_T_Sinetist
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The owner tells me he is disabling images. The text and URLs will remain, this interface is not flexible enough to qualify all content or all posters.
I must be a dinosaur, still using my ISP's email address, so I don't understand why everyone wants to go to a third party for email service. Many ISPs offer secondary/anonymous accounts. And why in the world would ANYONE use their REAL NAME as an email address? Or risk registering on a forbidden site from within their workplace?
I guess I just don't get it.
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Rocke_T_Sinetist
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Gmail has been banned for registration. Existing accounts should continue to function.
I suspect spambots will find a way around this, so I'm not calling it a solution, but since we did it I have encountered zero spam. It's only been half a day though.
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Update PHPBB, problem solved...
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Rocke_T_Sinetist
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It is under consideration. However, PHPBB has an unfortunate tendency to stop working when updated.
And spambots get updated faster than PHPBB does, so at best it's a stopgap.
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It's an effective stopgap that has long reaching benefits. Updating the board is the best way to approach this issue head on for now.
And if the board stops working, then it should be little more than a 2 to 5 minute fix. Whatever errors do appear are neatly pointed out right down to the line of code affected. |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Rocke_T_Sinetist wrote: | | And why in the world would ANYONE use their REAL NAME as an email address? |
Rocke:
When I had to switch to a new ISP when Everyone's Internet shut down their service for consumers and just went to being a web site host/provider, my new ISP's policy was to use your first and last name as your email address - NO EXCEPTIONS!
That's why I came here and use my anonymous Yahoo identity.
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| Rocke_T_Sinetist wrote: | And why in the world would ANYONE use their REAL NAME as an email address? Or risk registering on a forbidden site from within their workplace?
I guess I just don't get it. |
Because some people also run businesses as their REAL NAME and it's a professional field so 2qute4u69696969@isp.com probably wouldn't work that well. And who said anything about registering on a forbidden site from within their workplace? |
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Rocke_T_Sinetist
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What a ridiculous policy. As if there were only one Robert Smith. Then I suppose you were expected to affix a set of digits to it, which some other Robert Smith had not already used.
Well, the digital age meets the stone age. Control issues, posturing, and profiteering.
Today, that would be considered setting you up for identity theft. Your REAL name, as verified by that which you used on your mastercard to pay the bill?
Well then, business DROVE users into anonymity, where unscrupulous business (spammers) could abuse it.
Gevalt!
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Mele20
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| Rocke_T_Sinetist wrote: | What a ridiculous policy. As if there were only one Robert Smith. Then I suppose you were expected to affix a set of digits to it, which some other Robert Smith had not already used.
Well, the digital age meets the stone age. Control issues, posturing, and profiteering.
Today, that would be considered setting you up for identity theft. Your REAL name, as verified by that which you used on your mastercard to pay the bill?
Well then, business DROVE users into anonymity, where unscrupulous business (spammers) could abuse it.
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One of the largest broadband ISPs in the USA, Time Warner's Road Runner, issues your account in the form of your DEFAULT email address. This address cannot be changed or deleted. It is the Master address and the format for it is Last name, First initial and then 001, 002, etc (if there is more than one subscriber in your division with the same last name and first initial) @xxx(name of city or state).rr.com.
There are no exceptions to this rule even today and were none when I got Road Runner back in June 2001. That means that, for me at least, this Master email address in unusable. Until very recently, Road Runner only allowed 5 email addresses per account so wasting one of the five was a big deal especially for families sharing the RR account. You'd be amazed though at the number of people who use this address and on other ISPs the number of folks who deliberately use their full names and not for business reasons. |
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